Demigod Pantheon Statistics - Log/Info/Suggestions

I want suggestions!

Published on March 5, 2009 By GunslingerBara In Demigod

Hello everyone,

As Stardock's web developer, I was tasked with creating a statistics website for Demigod using the ungodly amount of data we (will) have available to us. That website is now located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com. A bunch of you already saw the "beta" version a few weeks back. While this site is still a beta, I am happy enough with it to remove the beta message that was at the top of the page in the previous version.

Today I pushed an update that added a bunch of new statistics, pages, and a slight redesign. Starting today I will be keeping a log of changes to the site in this post. I will also be checking for any suggestions, ideas, or feedback you guys may have on the site, so feel free to reply with any ideas.

Please keep in mind that the site is still a work in progress. Some numbers are still off, the design will likely be changed some more, and we will be adding more statistics in the future. It will likely be updated a few more times before Demigod's release.

Change Log:
9/21/2009
- Fixed how player stats are saved to the database, so custom games now count for Ladder Rankings/Experience (not all custom games though, just ranked custom games).
- Added Notes tab to player pages. This will allow you to view and manage private notes for other players, which will eventually appear within Demigod itself. Only you can view notes you've written, and you cannot view other's notes or notes written about you.
- The player stats on the left side of the primary player page now includes a small description for each stat.
- Fixed minor bugs with graphs.
- Fixed other minor bugs.

6/5/2009
- Added "Ladder" stats and rankings, which include Skirmish and Pantheon games.
- Updated "Overall" stats to include everything, Overall is not ranked.
- Added Tournament Stats to player stats page.
- Player's games listing now shows "NA" if a game is not counted.
- Updated search page to show more information and be more informative.
- Updated achievements page, it will be turned on when the stats are reset.
- Other minor bug fixes and design changes.

5/18/2009
- Added graphs for each Pantheon tournament.
- Added graphs for maps.
- Added graphs for Demigods.
- Minor bug fixes.
- More changes to back-end for API.

5/11/2009
- Player stat charts! Go to any player's initial page and you'll see some cool new charts and a slightly different layout.
- New tournament lists page (click on View All Tournaments at the bottom of any Pantheon page).
- Added current team progress chart (by percentage) to the right of the Pantheon page.
- Minor performance and back-end tweaks.

4/29/2009
- Lots of back-end changes to prepare for public API.
- Added sorting options to the Top Demigods and Maps pages.
- Updated all pages to make a more consistent error message system.
- Updated player search to avoid certain errors.

4/24/2009
- Maps statistics! You can now view overall statistics for each map, as well as how you did on each map.
- Fixed up some search issues.
- Added "Skirmish Statistics" to the player info page, on the bar to the right (click on Overall Statistics to see a dropdown).
- The games list now shows the game name.
- Tons of changes in the backend to make things faster and more accurate.

4/9/2009
- Added Top Demigods section, showing which Demigods are being used the most, win the most, etc.
- Added Demigods tab to player info page, showing which Demigods each player has played their stats for that Demigod (note: stats are inaccurate for the time being).
- Added Skirmish Rankings tab to Top Players.
- Major changes to how we are collecting stats and data.
- Minor image and backend changes.

4/7/2009
- Added sorting to games list, search sorting coming later.
- Added small arrow icons to headers to show you which column is currently sorted, and in which direction.
- Updated games listing to make it more readable, added a new page for each game for extended info (click on the date to see the page).
- Minor background changes.

3/31/2009
- Sorting now works on rankings pages, has not yet been implemented into other pages.
- Search page columns slightly tweaked.
- Search bar now works properly in Chrome.
- Player info page now shows rank and favor points for overall and custom game stats.
- Other minor changes.

3/23/2009
- New design!
- Added experience and overall rank to search page. All search statistics should now be "overall" statistics, not custom game or tournament stats.
- All pages now have proper headers and titles, should make things easier to navigate and harder to get lost.
- Player info page now shows the player's avatar and lists tournaments the player has participated in by default.
- General player statistics are now relegated to the right side of the player info page. Clicking on "Overall Stats" will dropdown a box that allows you to switch between overall and custom game stats.
- Search box now submits by pressing enter.
- Added message to bottom of ranking page saying "Note: Rankings are updated once daily at midnight EST."
- Small presentation changes for numbers and dates.

3/10/2009
- Added new "Experience" rating on nearly any page that shows a player.
- You can now see what team a player is on for tournament rankings.
- Games list now shows the game type (Conquest, Flag Control, etc.).
- Added player count for each team on the tournament info page (note: this may not be accurate at the moment).
- Added "Top Clans" button that redirects to nowhere (for now).
- Renamed all instances of "Skirmish" to "Custom Games" (let me know if you find any I missed).
- Added tabs to top of rankings pages to switch between Overall rankings and Custom Game rankings.
- All instances of "Forces of Dark" renamed to "Forces of Darkness."
- Minor design, wording, and bug fixes.

3/5/2009
- Redesigned the player page and added tabs for separating stats in a more user-friendly manner.
- Added a player search bar to all Pantheon pages (top right corner).
- Separated skirmish, overall, and tournament stats into individual pages.
- Added an achievements page, but data is inaccurate (see Known Bugs below).
- You can now view a list of games a player has played.
- Clicking on any rank number will take you to the rankings list with that player highlighted.
- Added 2 buttons at the top of the page: Pantheon Tournaments and Top Players.
- "Pantheon Tournaments" button will take you to the latest (active or inactive) Pantheon tournament.
- Top Players now shows overall top players, not skirmish top players.
- Tournament information page now shows each team, the top players for that team, and the team's information.

Once again, the Pantheon statistics website is located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com. I look forward to your feedback!

Bara

Comments (Page 19)

271

Trigeminal

on Apr 29, 2009

Scytale

reply 20

I posted this in another thread about the Experience/Rating system, and someone suggested I post it here. I haven't read through all 11 pages of this, so I appologize if it's been discussed already:

"I've also been wondering about this. I'd like to see know the actual calculations being done, mostly because I have a decently positive win/loss ratio, and I'm sitting at 915 Experience. Kinda bugs me not knowing why. Something that helped in Sumpreme commander was the added transparency that came from being able to see the change in your Rating/Experience after every match. I understand that it's probably a lot easier on the server to have it only update at midnight, but when I win 6 matches, lose 3, and have a net loss of 50 Experience it would be nice to know which match was responsible."

I requested this as well. Knowing how each match affects our rating would be a huge help.

272

Kitkun

on Apr 29, 2009

I think this is different:

I have one game listed in my stats [(US) usa] which was a custom game where I crashed while trying to join. Despite not ever even getting into the lobby, it has me listed as having played with unkown and earning 0 favor points.

Seems if someone tries to join but can't, it might not realize they're gone.

273

Neilo

on Apr 29, 2009

A few questions that i'm sure are on the forums somewhere and may be obvious to most but i just want clarification.

All pertain to MP.

Do custom games count toward the player stats? I have played many custom games and the only stats being recorded so far are favor points. Is this borked or by design?

If custom games do count, must you need human opponents? I have played many with me and a friend teaming up against all AI, do these count or only the ones against other players?

Do Skirmish games count to player stats?

Or is it only actually Pantheon games that count toward player stats?

I understand the rankings only update once a day but i have obsovered no change in mine over many days.

I of course understand none of these features may be working correctly at this point in time, that's fine, how they are meant to work will satisfy my curiosity.

Cheers.

274

GunslingerBara

on Apr 30, 2009

Scytale

reply 20

We will eventually release the calculations for the experience rating, but we are still working on perfecting it. T-Man is the one who came up with the system and who basically has the final say in when we release it. We'll keep you updated.

Neilo

reply 23

A few questions that i'm sure are on the forums somewhere and may be obvious to most but i just want clarification.

All pertain to MP.

Do custom games count toward the player stats? I have played many custom games and the only stats being recorded so far are favor points. Is this borked or by design?

If custom games do count, must you need human opponents? I have played many with me and a friend teaming up against all AI, do these count or only the ones against other players?

Do Skirmish games count to player stats?

Or is it only actually Pantheon games that count toward player stats?

I understand the rankings only update once a day but i have obsovered no change in mine over many days.

I of course understand none of these features may be working correctly at this point in time, that's fine, how they are meant to work will satisfy my curiosity.

Cheers.

Custom games do not count towards any stats. Custom game stats ARE collected, but kept separate from the overall stats.

Skirmish and Pantheon count towards overall stats, yes.

Which ranking has not changed? Your overall ranking? If so, have you played anything besides custom games yesterday?

Bara

275

Neilo

on Apr 30, 2009

Just a few skirmish games and a few Pantheon games.

What happens in these games when the other player/s dropout and you are now playing against bots either with or without human team mates?

Is it still counted or does the loss of human opponents nulify it?

Thanks for the info Bara....just getting my head around it mate.

276

GunslingerBara

on Apr 30, 2009

Neilo

reply 25

Just a few skirmish games and a few Pantheon games.

What happens in these games when the other player/s dropout and you are now playing against bots either with or without human team mates?

Is it still counted or does the loss of human opponents nulify it?

Thanks for the info Bara....just getting my head around it mate.

Odd things happen when players quit/disconnect. GPG is on it right now to make disconnecting a more elegant process in the backend of things. Once that happens, I'll keep an eye on the stats and see what happens

Bara

277

MrHertz

on May 01, 2009

Ok well for one the statistics only seem to count about 70% of my games played. I'm sure you guys are aware of this happening.

This might be useful however, I was given a loss for a game that appeared to crash on the load, both me and my teammated loaded into seperate games with only bots after a long load screen, and an hour or so later I have a loss on my record. Naturally this was very discouraging considering it was my first and only pantheon loss.

I realise they released the games only 90% finished,(seems to be the cool thing to do these days) and the statistics page is a work in progress, but it's still quite frustrating.

1 more quick rant..

SKILLS NOT WORKING UNTIL YOU MOVE YOUR CHARACTER IS EXTREMELY ANNOYING.

278

HorseRadish

on May 01, 2009

Alright I am sick of all my games that someone rage quits not showing up. either you fix your crap and get it right or reset the stats cause this is utter bullshit two weeks into release and you cannot even record a damn game correctly comeon wtf takes so long to get a damn number correct.

279

Neilo

on May 01, 2009

@ HorseRadish...What do you think Brad, Cari and Co. are doing at the office till all hours of the morning. Playing D&D?

Give them a break bloke.

280

GunslingerBara

on May 01, 2009

HorseRadish

reply 3

Calm down dude. It's just a number after all. We're trying our best to get the stats working properly, but there's a lot of data and code to consider.

Bara

281

HorseRadish

on May 01, 2009

GunslingerBara

reply 5

Quoting HorseRadish,
reply 3
Alright I am sick of all my games that someone rage quits not showing up. either you fix your crap and get it right or reset the stats cause this is utter bullshit two weeks into release and you cannot even record a damn game correctly comeon wtf takes so long to get a damn number correct.

Calm down dude. It's just a number after all. We're trying our best to get the stats working properly, but there's a lot of data and code to consider.

Bara

Calming down Rant over

282

Beaucephalus

on May 01, 2009

HorseRadish

reply 3

I agree (perhaps with less profanity) though I would add that, your expectation that we could have seen results in 2 weeks is off by, say, an order of magnitude (x10) If they're forking the code and <beginning> a public beta 2 weeks after "release" then most of this blah blah is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Don't get me wrong; I'm here till the bitter end, but i'm afraid this is all going to take longer than the average gamer attention span.

waiting patiently for the beta release. I will test it all weekend. GPG, please give your devs all the overtime they need.

283

Bearcathead

on May 02, 2009

Ugh, it only tracks my disconect. I've had two wins and a loss as well. It's not much, but it's kinda frustrating.

284

Scytale

on May 02, 2009

GunslingerBara

Custom games do not count towards any stats. Custom game stats ARE collected, but kept separate from the overall stats.

If that's the case, what's going on with the rankings currently? The 'Top Player' Razattack1337 has played no games in the current Pantheon, is ranked 489th in Skirmish, but has 122 wins and no losses on Prison almost entirely Custom. His custom game rank is 1st, and his overall rank is 1st. ^^;

285

Bearcathead

on May 02, 2009

PS Are the stats gonna be reset when pantheon is fixed?

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