Demigod Pantheon Statistics - Log/Info/Suggestions

I want suggestions!

Published on March 5, 2009 By GunslingerBara In Demigod

Hello everyone,

As Stardock's web developer, I was tasked with creating a statistics website for Demigod using the ungodly amount of data we (will) have available to us. That website is now located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com. A bunch of you already saw the "beta" version a few weeks back. While this site is still a beta, I am happy enough with it to remove the beta message that was at the top of the page in the previous version.

Today I pushed an update that added a bunch of new statistics, pages, and a slight redesign. Starting today I will be keeping a log of changes to the site in this post. I will also be checking for any suggestions, ideas, or feedback you guys may have on the site, so feel free to reply with any ideas.

Please keep in mind that the site is still a work in progress. Some numbers are still off, the design will likely be changed some more, and we will be adding more statistics in the future. It will likely be updated a few more times before Demigod's release.

Change Log:
9/21/2009
- Fixed how player stats are saved to the database, so custom games now count for Ladder Rankings/Experience (not all custom games though, just ranked custom games).
- Added Notes tab to player pages. This will allow you to view and manage private notes for other players, which will eventually appear within Demigod itself. Only you can view notes you've written, and you cannot view other's notes or notes written about you.
- The player stats on the left side of the primary player page now includes a small description for each stat.
- Fixed minor bugs with graphs.
- Fixed other minor bugs.

6/5/2009
- Added "Ladder" stats and rankings, which include Skirmish and Pantheon games.
- Updated "Overall" stats to include everything, Overall is not ranked.
- Added Tournament Stats to player stats page.
- Player's games listing now shows "NA" if a game is not counted.
- Updated search page to show more information and be more informative.
- Updated achievements page, it will be turned on when the stats are reset.
- Other minor bug fixes and design changes.

5/18/2009
- Added graphs for each Pantheon tournament.
- Added graphs for maps.
- Added graphs for Demigods.
- Minor bug fixes.
- More changes to back-end for API.

5/11/2009
- Player stat charts! Go to any player's initial page and you'll see some cool new charts and a slightly different layout.
- New tournament lists page (click on View All Tournaments at the bottom of any Pantheon page).
- Added current team progress chart (by percentage) to the right of the Pantheon page.
- Minor performance and back-end tweaks.

4/29/2009
- Lots of back-end changes to prepare for public API.
- Added sorting options to the Top Demigods and Maps pages.
- Updated all pages to make a more consistent error message system.
- Updated player search to avoid certain errors.

4/24/2009
- Maps statistics! You can now view overall statistics for each map, as well as how you did on each map.
- Fixed up some search issues.
- Added "Skirmish Statistics" to the player info page, on the bar to the right (click on Overall Statistics to see a dropdown).
- The games list now shows the game name.
- Tons of changes in the backend to make things faster and more accurate.

4/9/2009
- Added Top Demigods section, showing which Demigods are being used the most, win the most, etc.
- Added Demigods tab to player info page, showing which Demigods each player has played their stats for that Demigod (note: stats are inaccurate for the time being).
- Added Skirmish Rankings tab to Top Players.
- Major changes to how we are collecting stats and data.
- Minor image and backend changes.

4/7/2009
- Added sorting to games list, search sorting coming later.
- Added small arrow icons to headers to show you which column is currently sorted, and in which direction.
- Updated games listing to make it more readable, added a new page for each game for extended info (click on the date to see the page).
- Minor background changes.

3/31/2009
- Sorting now works on rankings pages, has not yet been implemented into other pages.
- Search page columns slightly tweaked.
- Search bar now works properly in Chrome.
- Player info page now shows rank and favor points for overall and custom game stats.
- Other minor changes.

3/23/2009
- New design!
- Added experience and overall rank to search page. All search statistics should now be "overall" statistics, not custom game or tournament stats.
- All pages now have proper headers and titles, should make things easier to navigate and harder to get lost.
- Player info page now shows the player's avatar and lists tournaments the player has participated in by default.
- General player statistics are now relegated to the right side of the player info page. Clicking on "Overall Stats" will dropdown a box that allows you to switch between overall and custom game stats.
- Search box now submits by pressing enter.
- Added message to bottom of ranking page saying "Note: Rankings are updated once daily at midnight EST."
- Small presentation changes for numbers and dates.

3/10/2009
- Added new "Experience" rating on nearly any page that shows a player.
- You can now see what team a player is on for tournament rankings.
- Games list now shows the game type (Conquest, Flag Control, etc.).
- Added player count for each team on the tournament info page (note: this may not be accurate at the moment).
- Added "Top Clans" button that redirects to nowhere (for now).
- Renamed all instances of "Skirmish" to "Custom Games" (let me know if you find any I missed).
- Added tabs to top of rankings pages to switch between Overall rankings and Custom Game rankings.
- All instances of "Forces of Dark" renamed to "Forces of Darkness."
- Minor design, wording, and bug fixes.

3/5/2009
- Redesigned the player page and added tabs for separating stats in a more user-friendly manner.
- Added a player search bar to all Pantheon pages (top right corner).
- Separated skirmish, overall, and tournament stats into individual pages.
- Added an achievements page, but data is inaccurate (see Known Bugs below).
- You can now view a list of games a player has played.
- Clicking on any rank number will take you to the rankings list with that player highlighted.
- Added 2 buttons at the top of the page: Pantheon Tournaments and Top Players.
- "Pantheon Tournaments" button will take you to the latest (active or inactive) Pantheon tournament.
- Top Players now shows overall top players, not skirmish top players.
- Tournament information page now shows each team, the top players for that team, and the team's information.

Once again, the Pantheon statistics website is located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com. I look forward to your feedback!

Bara

Comments (Page 17)

241

Copingsaw

on Apr 23, 2009

GunslingerBara

reply 15

This is a common issue and is being looked into. Did anyone drop from your games, if you know? Even if they dropped during the initial setup before the game started, that would be good to know. In the meantime, I'll see what I can do on the stats end to ignore those games.

Bara

I haven't played a pantheon game where someone from the losing team hasn't droped before the end of the game. So, yes, someone did drop from the games. I cannot remember if someone dropped during the initial setup on any of the games I referenced.

242

GunslingerBara

on Apr 23, 2009

Alright, I'm still clinging to the idea that drops are what is causing the duplicates games issue. GPG, T-Man, and CariElf are working on a system to handle drops and quits better. Once that system is completed and in-place, the duplicate games issue should disappear.

Once that happens, I'll go back and update everyone's games and remove the duplicates we have now.

Bara

243

lambdaman

on Apr 23, 2009

GunslingerBara

reply 15

I know for sure that in the 2v3, two of the three players on the other side dropped once we started winning. I don't remember any drops in the other game, but there may have been one pre-game that I didn't notice.

244

defuniak

on Apr 23, 2009

I've read through this thread and this is probably the best place to ask the question: I've been playing a few pantheon games each day for the last 3-4 days, but I can't seem to find anywhere to see a record of my game stats? Do you have to earn a certain amount of favor points or experience before being able to see stats on the website?

Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can provide!

245

InterFaced

on Apr 23, 2009

I have a theory... I was one of those players who was able to pick a light character even though I sided with dark for the tournament. (I didn't even know it was a bug at the time, I thought all characters were available for either side) As you can see on my stat page I have one win registered to rook. After that game I switched to UB, and ever since then I've been locked into the dark side as I should be... but no stats have been collected. So maybe my initial light-side pick screwed up my stats collection?

Hope this helps!

246

GunslingerBara

on Apr 23, 2009

defuniak

reply 19

No games were saved the past few days. Yesterday afternoon the server was updated and a fix was included to resolve the problem. Please try playing a few games today, then check the site at midnight to see if your name shows up in the search list and that your data is accurate.

InterFaced

reply 20

It doesn't seem as if my tournament page has updated, even though I lost a few games tuesday night after the stats collecting fix went live. http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/player/24477/tournamentstats/

I have a theory... I was one of those players who was able to pick a light character even though I sided with dark for the tournament. (I didn't even know it was a bug at the time, I thought all characters were available for either side) As you can see on my stat page I have one win registered to rook. After that game I switched to UB, and ever since then I've been locked into the dark side as I should be... but no stats have been collected. So maybe my initial light-side pick screwed up my stats collection?

Hope this helps!

There was another problem that was fixed yesterday with stat collecting. Please try a few games today and check back at midnight to see if your games were saved.

Bara

247

Osmosisch

on Apr 23, 2009

All pantheon games I played today except for one were saved to the website as custom games for some reason. There definitely were humans in the games, and in most cases one or more dropped before the match ended.

link:

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/player/13119/tournamentstats/

248

GunslingerBara

on Apr 23, 2009

You mean all of your Pantheon games were saved again as custom games right? Your games list shows plenty of Pantheon games, but also a custom game after each one.

Bara

249

Rhah

on Apr 23, 2009

Also with the favor point problem, not sure if this is known or not but I had played single player almost 20 hrs before going to multiplayer. I had all my favor items purchased and a lot of excess favor points. I went to play multiplayer I made about 200 or so favor points. Went back to single player when the servers went down last friday night and my single player favor points matched my multiplayer points of around 200 and I all purchased favor items were not purchased any more.

250

smodge13

on Apr 23, 2009

April 23rd i played 3 games,

1 pantheon conquest and won.

1 pantheon (all players dced and bots only so i dropped)

1 pantheon prison dominate and won (this game is coming up as custom and lost) it was a 2v 2 match at first 2 players dropped (1 a side).

Stats aren't being recorded correctly.

251

Osmosisch

on Apr 24, 2009

You mean all of your Pantheon games were saved again as custom games right? Your games list shows plenty of Pantheon games, but also a custom game after each one.

Oh wow, now that I look at it more closely it's even weirder than I thought.

I won most of those pantheon games, but my wins are recorded as custom games, while the pantheon games are recorded as a loss for my side. There was player chatter until the end of the games so I'm pretty sure I wasn't actually in bot games.

So I guess I should have phrased my problem as "my pantheon wins become split up into custom game wins and pantheon losses"

252

GunslingerBara

on Apr 24, 2009

smodge13

reply 25

April 23rd i played 3 games,

1 pantheon conquest and won.

1 pantheon (all players dced and bots only so i dropped)

1 pantheon prison dominate and won (this game is coming up as custom and lost) it was a 2v 2 match at first 2 players dropped (1 a side).

Stats aren't being recorded correctly.

The first 2 games look like they recorded properly. You're right about the third, it is incorrect. I'm fairly certain, however, that this is related to drops and disconnects. Once GPG fixes the issue, we'll see if the issues continue. If so, I'll take a deeper look at the code to see what's happening.

Bara

253

GunslingerBara

on Apr 24, 2009

Double post! Made an update today to the Pantheon. Here is the change log:

4/24/2009
- Maps statistics! You can now view overall statistics for each map, as well as how you did on each map.
- Fixed up some search issues.
- Added "Skirmish Statistics" to the player info page, on the bar to the right (click on Overall Statistics to see a dropdown).
- The games list now shows the game name.
- Tons of changes in the backend to make things faster and more accurate.

Note that we are still working on getting stats to save properly and accurately.

Bara

254

fixmyfavor

on Apr 24, 2009

I have a couple of questions:

1. Are multiplayer achievements (not talking about favor points) stored on the server side instead of the end-user's computer, separately from the singleplayer achievements; or are they just lumped together with the singleplayer achievements that are stored on the end-user's computer?

2. If they are not stored separately, won't this be abused because it can be hacked on the end-user's computer so that any end-user who wants max achievements can get them with some copy and pasting? Additionally, this would create a problem because if the achievements file gets damaged, all achievements are lost. For example, I've had a BSOD the other night whilst playing Demigod (I believe caused by my firewall driver, not by something wrong with Demigod's coding) and after the memory dump and reboot, my Demigod profile and all my SP achievements were gone and had to be remade from scratch. Furthermore, if they are not stored separately, then how does it work for favor points earned via achievements that were earned, or paritally earned, in singleplayer, transferring over to be spent in multiplayer?

255

GunslingerBara

on Apr 24, 2009

fixmyfavor

reply 4

I have a couple of questions:

1. Are multiplayer achievements (not talking about favor points) stored on the server side instead of the end-user's computer, separately from the singleplayer achievements; or are they just lumped together with the singleplayer achievements that are stored on the end-user's computer?

2. If they are not stored separately, won't this be abused because it can be hacked on the end-user's computer so that any end-user who wants max achievements can get them with some copy and pasting? Additionally, this would create a problem because if the achievements file gets damaged, all achievements are lost. For example, I've had a BSOD the other night whilst playing Demigod (I believe caused by my firewall driver, not by something wrong with Demigod's coding) and after the memory dump and reboot, my Demigod profile and all my SP achievements were gone and had to be remade from scratch. Furthermore, if they are not stored separately, then how does it work for favor points earned via achievements that were earned, or paritally earned, in singleplayer, transferring over to be spent in multiplayer?

1. All achievements are stored locally for the moment. Eventually we will start saving these on the server, as well as show them on the website.

2. Sure they could, but they have no place to show it for the moment, so what would be the point? When we start saving achievements on the server end, it won't be so easy to modify them. By the way, BSOD are usually caused by hardware faults, not code. This is usually a problem caused by the video or network drivers (of which I've had both).

Bara

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