Demigod Pantheon Statistics - Log/Info/Suggestions

I want suggestions!

Published on March 5, 2009 By GunslingerBara In Demigod

Hello everyone,

As Stardock's web developer, I was tasked with creating a statistics website for Demigod using the ungodly amount of data we (will) have available to us. That website is now located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com. A bunch of you already saw the "beta" version a few weeks back. While this site is still a beta, I am happy enough with it to remove the beta message that was at the top of the page in the previous version.

Today I pushed an update that added a bunch of new statistics, pages, and a slight redesign. Starting today I will be keeping a log of changes to the site in this post. I will also be checking for any suggestions, ideas, or feedback you guys may have on the site, so feel free to reply with any ideas.

Please keep in mind that the site is still a work in progress. Some numbers are still off, the design will likely be changed some more, and we will be adding more statistics in the future. It will likely be updated a few more times before Demigod's release.

Change Log:
9/21/2009
- Fixed how player stats are saved to the database, so custom games now count for Ladder Rankings/Experience (not all custom games though, just ranked custom games).
- Added Notes tab to player pages. This will allow you to view and manage private notes for other players, which will eventually appear within Demigod itself. Only you can view notes you've written, and you cannot view other's notes or notes written about you.
- The player stats on the left side of the primary player page now includes a small description for each stat.
- Fixed minor bugs with graphs.
- Fixed other minor bugs.

6/5/2009
- Added "Ladder" stats and rankings, which include Skirmish and Pantheon games.
- Updated "Overall" stats to include everything, Overall is not ranked.
- Added Tournament Stats to player stats page.
- Player's games listing now shows "NA" if a game is not counted.
- Updated search page to show more information and be more informative.
- Updated achievements page, it will be turned on when the stats are reset.
- Other minor bug fixes and design changes.

5/18/2009
- Added graphs for each Pantheon tournament.
- Added graphs for maps.
- Added graphs for Demigods.
- Minor bug fixes.
- More changes to back-end for API.

5/11/2009
- Player stat charts! Go to any player's initial page and you'll see some cool new charts and a slightly different layout.
- New tournament lists page (click on View All Tournaments at the bottom of any Pantheon page).
- Added current team progress chart (by percentage) to the right of the Pantheon page.
- Minor performance and back-end tweaks.

4/29/2009
- Lots of back-end changes to prepare for public API.
- Added sorting options to the Top Demigods and Maps pages.
- Updated all pages to make a more consistent error message system.
- Updated player search to avoid certain errors.

4/24/2009
- Maps statistics! You can now view overall statistics for each map, as well as how you did on each map.
- Fixed up some search issues.
- Added "Skirmish Statistics" to the player info page, on the bar to the right (click on Overall Statistics to see a dropdown).
- The games list now shows the game name.
- Tons of changes in the backend to make things faster and more accurate.

4/9/2009
- Added Top Demigods section, showing which Demigods are being used the most, win the most, etc.
- Added Demigods tab to player info page, showing which Demigods each player has played their stats for that Demigod (note: stats are inaccurate for the time being).
- Added Skirmish Rankings tab to Top Players.
- Major changes to how we are collecting stats and data.
- Minor image and backend changes.

4/7/2009
- Added sorting to games list, search sorting coming later.
- Added small arrow icons to headers to show you which column is currently sorted, and in which direction.
- Updated games listing to make it more readable, added a new page for each game for extended info (click on the date to see the page).
- Minor background changes.

3/31/2009
- Sorting now works on rankings pages, has not yet been implemented into other pages.
- Search page columns slightly tweaked.
- Search bar now works properly in Chrome.
- Player info page now shows rank and favor points for overall and custom game stats.
- Other minor changes.

3/23/2009
- New design!
- Added experience and overall rank to search page. All search statistics should now be "overall" statistics, not custom game or tournament stats.
- All pages now have proper headers and titles, should make things easier to navigate and harder to get lost.
- Player info page now shows the player's avatar and lists tournaments the player has participated in by default.
- General player statistics are now relegated to the right side of the player info page. Clicking on "Overall Stats" will dropdown a box that allows you to switch between overall and custom game stats.
- Search box now submits by pressing enter.
- Added message to bottom of ranking page saying "Note: Rankings are updated once daily at midnight EST."
- Small presentation changes for numbers and dates.

3/10/2009
- Added new "Experience" rating on nearly any page that shows a player.
- You can now see what team a player is on for tournament rankings.
- Games list now shows the game type (Conquest, Flag Control, etc.).
- Added player count for each team on the tournament info page (note: this may not be accurate at the moment).
- Added "Top Clans" button that redirects to nowhere (for now).
- Renamed all instances of "Skirmish" to "Custom Games" (let me know if you find any I missed).
- Added tabs to top of rankings pages to switch between Overall rankings and Custom Game rankings.
- All instances of "Forces of Dark" renamed to "Forces of Darkness."
- Minor design, wording, and bug fixes.

3/5/2009
- Redesigned the player page and added tabs for separating stats in a more user-friendly manner.
- Added a player search bar to all Pantheon pages (top right corner).
- Separated skirmish, overall, and tournament stats into individual pages.
- Added an achievements page, but data is inaccurate (see Known Bugs below).
- You can now view a list of games a player has played.
- Clicking on any rank number will take you to the rankings list with that player highlighted.
- Added 2 buttons at the top of the page: Pantheon Tournaments and Top Players.
- "Pantheon Tournaments" button will take you to the latest (active or inactive) Pantheon tournament.
- Top Players now shows overall top players, not skirmish top players.
- Tournament information page now shows each team, the top players for that team, and the team's information.

Once again, the Pantheon statistics website is located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com. I look forward to your feedback!

Bara

Comments (Page 26)

376

Trigeminal

on Jun 03, 2009

Gunslinger, I have two issues I was hoping we could discuss.

1) Game listed at 11:06pm was a game I never actually got into. This has occured in other games as well. I was having issues at that time were I was disconnected from matchmaking and several stalls on the loading screen were I was infinitely waiting for other players. Games I am not in should not count against me.

2) During a game at 11:36, I had 13 kills and 0 deaths. I had artifacts and cats heading at them, they had 2 forts while we had all 5 still, then my graphics card reset. The driver reset and windows was restored but Demigod just closed. My teammate won less than 2 minutes later. I got the loss.

These are 2 instances where I don't think I should be getting loses. The first one for sure, but the second one as well. Thoughts???

377

GunslingerBara

on Jun 03, 2009

Trigeminal

reply 1

Gunslinger, I have two issues I was hoping we could discuss.

1) Game listed at 11:06pm was a game I never actually got into. This has occured in other games as well. I was having issues at that time were I was disconnected from matchmaking and several stalls on the loading screen were I was infinitely waiting for other players. Games I am not in should not count against me.

2) During a game at 11:36, I had 13 kills and 0 deaths. I had artifacts and cats heading at them, they had 2 forts while we had all 5 still, then my graphics card reset. The driver reset and windows was restored but Demigod just closed. My teammate won less than 2 minutes later. I got the loss.

These are 2 instances where I don't think I should be getting loses. The first one for sure, but the second one as well. Thoughts???

I'll bring the first issue to T-Man's attention. The second issue: You were probably disconnected, and because of that you got the loss. There's no way for us know if you disconnected on purpose or by accident, so we have to count it as a loss. Most other games do it this way too.

Bara

378

f1do

on Jun 03, 2009

any idea when the reset is going to happen?

379

Trigeminal

on Jun 03, 2009

Bara,

I also have a game at Jun 3, 2009 3:17 PM where I loaded in and saw a 0 ping for my ally. I said sorry, but 2v1 with ai is silly and ended game. I was in for under 20 secs. It is currently listed as a loss. Is this normal???

I don't normally leave but was under the impression that "end game" in under a couple minutes was not counted against us.

380

GunslingerBara

on Jun 03, 2009

f1do

reply 3

any idea when the reset is going to happen?

Soon. I do have a specific date that I was told, but it may change, so I'd rather not make it public just yet (unless Brad decides otherwise). Keep track of the Demigod Journals forum for an answer.

Trigeminal

reply 4

Bara,

I also have a game at Jun 3, 2009 3:17 PM where I loaded in and saw a 0 ping for my ally. I said sorry, but 2v1 with ai is silly and ended game. I was in for under 20 secs. It is currently listed as a loss. Is this normal???

I don't normally leave but was under the impression that "end game" in under a couple minutes was not counted against us.

Actually, that should not be happening. But since it did, it will give us a good test case for where the error is. We'll look into it.

Bara

381

Danbotics

on Jun 03, 2009

My stats are uploading on the tourny page but my rank is not being recorded?

382

Trigeminal

on Jun 03, 2009

Danbotics

reply 6

My stats are uploading on the tourny page but my rank is not being recorded?

Rank only update 1/day at 12Midnight Eastern Standard Time.

383

GunslingerBara

on Jun 04, 2009

Trigeminal

reply 7

Quoting Danbotics, reply 6My stats are uploading on the tourny page but my rank is not being recorded?
Rank only update 1/day at 12Midnight Eastern Standard Time.

As it states at the bottom of that page

Bara

384

GunslingerBara

on Jun 04, 2009

Just pushed a minor update to Pantheon. The primary change is that we have removed "Overall" stats and rankings and added "Ladder" stats and rankings. Ladder stats include Skirmish and Pantheon games, but not Custom Games, and will become the primary way that we rank people.

Overall will return either later today or tomorrow and will include everything (skirmish, pantheon, and custom games). It will not be ranked; it will just be for statistical purposes such as on the Player Info page.

Let me know if you have any questions or problems with this change.

One thing I should mention is that "ladder" may not be the final name we stick with, and may change in the near future.

Bara

385

Rydier

on Jun 04, 2009

A couple of questions, sorry if they have been asked already, didn't read the entire thread....

Why don't the numbers add up?

As in, my wins/losses/discs in tournament + skirmish != Ladder totals.

Neither does my ladder + custom = overall...

Does the tournament ranking exp still base itself on your total exp, like in Rokur2? If so, why?

It's sort of silly to go 18-4 in a tourney, and end up with 953 exp because your overall ranking is high...

Lastly, a feature request:

It'd be nice to be able to input two users, and get a list of the games they've both been in.

386

themadmanazn

on Jun 04, 2009

Wow, I never found this palce, but now I did, here is a strange issue I found.

I had a pantheon game that had all 4 palyers all the way through. When my ally and I won, the game crashed on the "Forces of Light are Victorious" page (I was on forces of light). The screen that shows stats for the game and stuff.

Here is the game: http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/519967/player/42956/

The game is recorded as a loss for me even though I got the favor points and everything. I am not sure how this looks like in the database end of things, but to me it appears as a loss and that doesn't seem correct to me since I played the whole game through and won.

387

GunslingerBara

on Jun 05, 2009

Rydier

reply 10

A couple of questions, sorry if they have been asked already, didn't read the entire thread....

Why don't the numbers add up?

As in, my wins/losses/discs in tournament + skirmish != Ladder totals.

Neither does my ladder + custom = overall...

Does the tournament ranking exp still base itself on your total exp, like in Rokur2? If so, why?

It's sort of silly to go 18-4 in a tourney, and end up with 953 exp because your overall ranking is high...

Lastly, a feature request:

It'd be nice to be able to input two users, and get a list of the games they've both been in.

Try playing a game. The overall and ladder stats will not update until you play 1 game (preferably non-custom game). Doing so will kick off a job that will update the numbers, and at midnight the site will update with the new numbers.

As for your suggestion, I will eventually add some kind of player comparison page. I'll see about implementing the ability to see if they have played any games together.

themadmanazn

reply 11

Wow, I never found this palce, but now I did, here is a strange issue I found.

I had a pantheon game that had all 4 palyers all the way through. When my ally and I won, the game crashed on the "Forces of Light are Victorious" page (I was on forces of light). The screen that shows stats for the game and stuff.

Here is the game: http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/519967/player/42956/

The game is recorded as a loss for me even though I got the favor points and everything. I am not sure how this looks like in the database end of things, but to me it appears as a loss and that doesn't seem correct to me since I played the whole game through and won.

According to the database you were marked as a disconnect. Unfortunately, disconnects are an instant loss. That isn't the problem though, the problem is that you crashed. Do you happen to know why you crashed? Was an error returned? Try updating your video card and network drivers so this doesn't happen again.

Bara

388

GunslingerBara

on Jun 05, 2009

Another update today. I've merged the update from yesterday with today's update. Here's the change log:

6/5/2009
- Added "Ladder" stats and rankings, which include Skirmish and Pantheon games.
- Updated "Overall" stats to include everything, Overall is not ranked.
- Added Tournament Stats to player stats page.
- Player's games listing now shows "NA" if a game is not counted.
- Updated search page to show more information and be more informative.
- Updated achievements page, it will be turned on when the stats are reset.
- Other minor bug fixes and design changes.

I'll be doing one other minor update later today to show the Spent Favor Points and Current Favor Points on the Stats page for players for each stat type (overall, tournament, skirmish, etc.).

Bara

389

Rydier

on Jun 05, 2009

GunslingerBara

reply 12

Ehm, ok... I'm sure I played Pantheon games yesterday, so the job was kicked off.

These are my stats as of today (not played any games yet, so none counted some places, but not added elsewhere due to job not kicked off yet), care to explain how they can be correct?

Overall Stats:
Total Games: 116
Games Won: 86
Games Lost: 30

Tournament Stats:
Total Games: 88
Games Won: 65
Games Lost: 23

Custom Game Stats:
Total Games: 7
Games Won: 3
Games Lost: 4

Skirmish Stats:
Total Games: 17
Games Won: 13
Games Lost: 4

Ladder Stats:
Total Games: 16
Games Won: 13
Games Lost: 3

390

GunslingerBara

on Jun 05, 2009

It's almost accurate. I wonder if Overall is counting dropped games or something similar... I'll take a look and see how they are being calculated.

Bara

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